Chapter 10 | Page 19

Welllllllllll that’s a buzz kill.

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  1. Well,they are out side so I’m gonna imagine there’s some form of cricket just chirping away in that awkward silence :3

  2. I need to actually read the Sagas, apparently. Back when I made my first computer, and it was connected to the local network (like mid 90s), we had them named. Dad was Thor, and I was Magni. :) I live through Ragnarok! …right? I do right? Please tell me I do. D:

    • Haha! I think he does actually! So you’re safe. ;3

    • Also Víðarr, my favorite amongst them, well also Loki, and don’t come with that talk about Loki not being a god please, all of the gods hat some giant blood in their veins, directly or indirectly!

  3. Norse mythology is pretty fucking brutal at times…

    • Speaking of brutal: You should look at the creation myth if you haven’t already. Specifically how – and from what – Odin and his brothers created the world.

      • The Norse creation myth was frikkin’ METAL

    • They all are. Do you know what happens to, like, 90% of the women Zeus had sex with (usually without waiting to ask their permission)? Death by angry goddess, courtesy of Hera. Also, look up the myth of Arachne, or Medusa, or Actaeon, or Niobe, or… well you get the idea.

      All things considered, I think Norse mythology is actually somewhat less cruel than most.

      • I agree. Norse myths are less cruel than Classic myths. They’re even a little inocent. In Classic myths we can find incest, sexual haresment, treason, egoism and other many deeds like that in almost every leyend, even if it comes from so-called nice gods such as Athena.

        • “So-called nice” is the crucial term here. At least the Norse gods generally had a good side for you to stay on.

          The Greek gods, on the other hand, make the Borgias look like the folks from Married With Family by comparison.

          • The Greek Gods, except like three, were like “F*** everything. If it moves, it’s f***able.”

          • And that’s exactly the good thing about Greek gods: they are not to be loved, but to be Feared. Everything they do is for their pleasure and amusement, they follow their own rules which do not apply to humankind, and mortals knew that when gods were involved. only bad things could happen to them. Because All Gods Are Bastards. A good lessons we never learnt enough… ;)
            That said, is not as if there aren’t “good” stories about Greek Gods; after all a god (everywhere, I gather…) is a symbol of order, or, to say it in a better way, a symbol of the order that humans seek to find amidst the chaos of elements; the fierciness of their action reflected the ways of our ancestors, but there are also examples, in every mithology I know, of goods deeds, usually reflecting the acknowledgement of mortal’s good behavior.

          • Indeed. Zeus is quite similar to Odin, but at least Odin wanders around human world seeking for acknowedgle, as Zeus does the same but seeking for “the today’s lover”.
            Athena may be a nice godess, but even when she was named the main deity in Athenas city, she got the tittle just because her little missap with his uncle Poseidon.
            Hermes may be the closest thing to Loki in Norse myths (funny to see the Bussiness god also is the Liar god), but his behaviour wasn’t that different from other gods, so never got punished…
            And so tell…

            Myths are a representation of the human culture where they come from, and certainly Norse myths are milder than these. Now, let’s figure out why.

      • Don’t forget that one guy (can’t remember his name ATM) is punished for some crime against the gods by being chained to some rocks and having his liver eaten by an eagle — *FOREVER!!!*

        • You’re thinking of Prometheus, who gave Fire to man.

          • Thanks! I can never seem to remember that it was Prometheus. I always want to say “Sysiphus”, but I know that he’s the poor bastard who has to roll a huge boulder up a hill every day only to have it roll back down and do it all over again — *FOREVER!!!* (Those Greek gods sure were a sadistic bunch…)

    • Yeah, it certainly can be. And we don’t even know all the stories!

  4. “is that punishment enough for you?”

  5. Whenever I read Greek Mythology, I remember Shakespeare and King Lear.

    As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods.
    They kill us for their sport.

    • Very true! Although, funnily enough, Norse mythology doesn’t involve humans all that much. Most of the drama happens between the gods, or between them and other creatures. Humans are rarely part of the stories.

  6. Wow, Coal. You are one elaborate and enthusiastic storyteller. “Everyone died, The End”.

    • Haha! Sometimes that’s all there is.

  7. Yeah… That’s got to be kinda depressing for Coal after he’s actually met the poor kids. No wonder Loki was pissed that Coal had become an Enhijar; Coal had joined the very people who Loki is fated to be tortured by for eons.

    • Yeah it’s tough! :c But what can you do.

  8. Forgot about that bit….

    • Yeah, a not so fun aspect of the story. :c

  9. So amazing to imagine all the religions being equally real simultaneously. So when each dies, they go to their own god(s)’s construction of the afterlife? And if they are converted, they slip from one universe into another? Much to wait and see. I’m learning a lot here.

  10. So I looked it up and I’m seeing some discrepancies. Is it spelled “Baldur” or “Baldr” and was he bound with just one of his son’s intestines or more than one? Also, is it the same two sons we saw before?

    • Oh NO did I spell it Baldr somewhere else in the main comic? I know I mentioned him in a bonus thing but I don’t really count those.

      But if not, then yes Baldr and Baldur are the same person. It’s sometimes also spelled Balder. How it’s spelled is just a matter of personal preference. The myths also sometimes say that Loki has two sons with Sigyn, or perhaps one son. There’s a lot of discrepancies because there are a lot of discrepancies. And yeah the “sons” Coal is referring to are Narvi and Vali.

  11. It kind of seems strange to me that not one of the gods would think of the various ways to disrupt the prophecy when their lives are on the line. I don’t know much about whichever group supposedly made the prophecy, but if it’s some sort of future mind reading thing, they’d just have to make sure that all of the gods are thinking of Baldur as dead at the time and that they can’t sense Baldur’s mind at all (which would just require Baldur to do something extremely emberassing and knock himself unconscious somehow; depending on the age at which Loki is supposed to get involved with the prophecy, copious amounts of drink would solve both issues simultaneously). Meanwhile, if it’s a literal ability to see the future, all they’d need to do is find one god with the ability to manipulate light or otherwise come up with a way to do so. Even putting on an act would work. If they’re not sure through what mechanisms the prophecy was made, they’d just have to do both.

    Can someone explain why they don’t just do something like that?

    • Not me! :D

    • Well, Marvel Comics thought about that. A lot…

      Personally, I think the reason gods don’t try to escape their fate in the story, is because their “godly” status depends on that same fate they’d want to escape. Besides, they know that after Ragnarok a new era will start and Balder and other gods (new gods which will represent the new era), will find themselves again in a new paradise. Simply put, can you stop the Sun from “dying” in wiinter and be “reborn” in spring? Seasons are immutable, and so are gods who represent nature in their various aspect.

      The “mating-obsessed” aspect of greeks gods come from the obsevation of how nature changes and elements blend into each other, there’s nothing like a Ragnarok because things are looked from mankind’s perspective, that’s why so many stories involve mankind. There were, however, two main wars before the so called Golden Age, which represent the struggle of elements in ancient times; stories of glacier melting, earthquakes, and vulcans erupting became in the storyteller’s mind, Titan wars and Giant wars. Even Greek Gods though, have an end in their rulership, and it is marked (or so my prof told me more than 15 years ago… so I hope I remember it well) with the trial of Oreste, who killed his mother to avenge his father (yeah… it’s all about fun in greek miths, I know… too bad if I look at newspaper I can often find similar storiesT_T)
      The judgement sentence release Oreste from Erinyes, goddesses bound to haunt those who break blood ties, and marks the moment in which precedent law prevaricates natural law.

      • That’s…a rather good point, actually. I didn’t actually know that about the new era stuff. If I’m understanding what you’re saying, that means that after Ragnarok, the gods are reborn? Or are you just saying that that just happens to Baldur and new gods are born to fulfill the functions of the dead ones?

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